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Decided finally to order this Set 3, Books about the Moon, 'Luna Cognita',having read a very positive review. Ordered from Amazon, came in a couple of days...BUT only Volume 1 received. Apparently this is NOT the first time! Someone - Writing in Japanese-only received Vol 3....others received only vol 1, etc etc. Returning the single volume but will be surprised if the replacement is all three volumes! Seriously frustrating, annoying and disappointing. Beware! regards mike

Just noticed that in my frustration I headed this post with an incorrect name for the book! maf
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Mike
I personally can only say we have found Amazon OK. But I have heard some concerns that some people have received parcels containing no ordered items only packaging.
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My wife regularly buys from them and there is no problem with returning wrong or faulty goods, and no charge for such return. Have returned the Vol 1, and await with some trepidation for the replacement which apparently has been sent. It will be immediately obvious by the weight of the package where it contained one volume or a set of three!

How are you coping Cliff generally and astronomically? The Sun seems pretty dead, all the recent Comets have promised much and been faint or have fallen apart, so really have only been concentrated on Venus, following it in the daytime with a spotting scope. Must go as doing so at the moment and if Venus gets too far beyond the fov, I will have to search for it all over again.
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Mike
Yes, we or perhaps I should really say my wife has had similar experiences with Amazon. They usually do seem pretty efficient, but there's always need to keep fingers Xed I hope your current book purchase issue works out satisfactorily.
How am I coping with astronomy ?
Well astronomy for me now is pretty well only the Sun. And if I couldn't observe it through our west facing back bedroom window I suspect I might forget about astronomy completely. Although I did fairly recently actually take a simple astro-image of Venus. But even if I felt physically able to observe at night from our garden there is now a fantastically brilliant security light shining directly into our garden. I have great sympathy for the supposed need for the light (one of 13 such security lights I think) for the benefit of OAPs in sheltered bungalow accommodation, who have been having nasty experiences (burglaries, some even beaten-up). Years back I got on well with the sheltered accommodation manageress, who lived on the site and got the then lower powered security lights adjusted to my advantage, but because of financial cut-backs the manageress was moved to take charge of many more sites. Whatever, our local security lighting is absolutely ridiculously bright. Unfortunately I am now a bit passed night sky observing so complaining would be a waste of time. Ironically about 15 years ago I (being one of two amateur astronomers) attended a meeting of street lighting engineers in Sheffield - when I gave them my opinions, I got booed by quite a few people. I was ready for the reception I got being a retired highway engineer & had occasional tangles with lighting engineers in the local authority where I worked.
I might be wrong but I suspect even now not many street lighting engineers are really very concerned about light pollution.
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Hello Cliff, I do observing out of and through the window when ever possible, and only with low power instruments so this is generally not a problem. Also generally around dawn/dusk and daytime. This included, as you must have read here, VENUS in daylight, and other bright objects coming together when during the dawn/dusk, Crescent & Full Moon, Solar and Lunar eclipses [visible from here!], atmospheric optical effects [haloes, sundogs etc]. IF there is a bright or brightish comet [pretty rare lately!] I will venture into viewing it what ever the time. Rarely if ever look at the stars unless as background for planet [Venus near the Pleiades for example.] Most of these do not require dark skies. What I would like to see are [a] a daylight comet and daylight supernova. I will not hold my breath though! regards mike.
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Mike - Thanks !
I began stargazing when a boy, just before WW2 ended - NO light pollution then.
Continued interest even though school teachers swayed me off becoming a proper astronomer, probably because of my academic limitations. Eventually got more serious in 1987 when I acquired a 215mm Newtonian. Initially keen on Deep Sky but light pollution encouraged more planetary observing. The Moon seemed too complicated, the Sun too bright, planets providing enough detail to make sketching interesting. Sometimes I went on the Pennines to observe DSOs. Old fashioned film photography didn't attract me but in the early 1990s professional astronomers new fangled digital images fascinated me, so when cheaper digital gear became available I got one.
About 20years ago arthritis became a problem; not getting better as I grew older, & not encouraging night sky observing. So already having a decent 88mm refractor, I also acquired a 60mm Hydrogen Alpha Coronado SolarMax scope, to observe the Sun in comfort through our west facing back bedroom window in daytime. On a nice day I sometimes get my quota of White Light & Ha video clips in half an hour; with more awkward skies often longer. However, image processing takes three hours - so the Sun generally provides enough astronomy for me.
Whatever, last night I took a photo of my SolarMax parked at the bedroom window & beyond the double glazing my nearby "friend" the security light and the odd few street lights. I'll try to display my photo on the Forum Gallery.
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A further and final episode concerning that book from Amazon!!
My wife sent back Volume 1, explaining that there should be three volumes.
They tried again...and their next attempt produced...yes, you guessed it...Volume 2 alone!!!
I am giving up!!! Will send Vol 2 back and ask for a cash refund. They really ought to be boxed, even if it meant an additional cost. I noticed that someone from the BAA received a full set from another source and theirs were sealed together in a bag with a sticker thereon saying "a set of three volumes." or something similar.
When I first wrote this posting, in error I called the book " Luna Incognita", I was not far wrong...the contents are going to be "unknown" to me! regards mike
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Mike
Sorry to red about your problem about the three Moon books with Amazon.
I hope you get the refund OK.
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Having completely given up attempting to get the Set of Three Luna Cognita Books, unbeknownst to me my wife ordered a set from Waterstones online. Coming home from an exercise walk in the sunshine, completely unexpectedly there was a box with all three volumes within it. Wow! Wonderful. What a super set... contains everything one might want to know about the Moon, maps, charts, tables, photographs, eclipses, history, occultations,...……………etc etc. regards mike
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Glad to hear it got sorted out. I was going to buy the books off Amazon until I read your posts.
I ended up ordering the books from Waterstones online on Monday and they were delivered on Thursday this week. I cant fault the online service from Waterstones, I got all 3 volumes, well packaged and undamaged.
After a quick skim through, it appears to be one of the best lunar reference books I have seen for many years.

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Mike
I'm very pleased that you got your set of Moon books.
I got "Rebel Star" (about the Sun) from Waterstones, but ordered it in their local-ish shop & collected it myself a few days later when paying for it. That was a month before Christmas 2019. I then hurriedly read & thoroughly enjoyed the first third of it, (unusual for me I'm a poor reader). But then I was not well for several weeks and did no reading at all.
Eventually got back into it a few weeks back - but not enjoying it as much as previously. Although I do think the book got a bit more complicated. I'm puzzled by my sudden very limited interest. I've still got the last third to read (100 pages) though rarely very keen now but I'm determined to finish it.
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Some books are like that Cliff, they start of very good but later on either seem to peter out our perhaps get lost in overkill!
The Luna Cognita set is really a MOON encyclopaedia, a super dip-in set. You could not be expected to read it from cover to cover but can dip into it, use the maps and tables for information and specific data. One particular area of interest is that every named lunar crater description contains biographical details about the person it was named after. The collection of Moon maps is second to none...I love maps!
This set will have pride of place next to my various star atlases. A 'keeper' set, indeed!
Andy, glad posting my message initially was helpful.
regards mike.
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Hi, I've just googled the book Luna Cognita which looks very interesting and well presented. I'll order a copy for myself when I have sufficient funds available! I'm in the middle of doing some mods to an electric guitar at the moment which is proving to be rather expensive but hope to finish it soon. I have an interest in old star maps and atlases and am quite fascinated by their development, from those of the 15th and 16th century depicting animals and giants in the night sky to the present day such as Nortons and Sky Atlas 2000.0 etc. I came across a beautiful book recently which I ordered from Amazon called 'Celestial Atlas, a Journey in the Sky through Maps' by Elena Percivaldi which charts the progress made by astronomical cartographers from the 16th to 19th century. It is lavishly illustrated and a pleasure to read. I can't remember ow much it cost but I'm sure it was less than £20. It's quite remarkable how these can be produced so cheaply. I would be interested to hear if anyone else has a similar interest.

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Mike
you made an interesting point in your post 31st May (saying- some books start good but either peter out or get lost in overkill !). Might have been a factor in my problems reading "Rebel Star". It did get heavier going for a part of it, confusing me with gen about space probes & experiments. However, I must admit I am a mediocre reader anyway but I do think my spell of poor health December 2019 was my biggest problem stopping me reading "R.S".
The good news is I gradually got back into "Rebel Star" & now just finished reading it !!
I've got to say initially I was pleased with the hardback's cheap price £18-99p. But now my only gripe is a few pages came loose & fell out of the binding.
That said there are many things I like about the book. One story thing in particular amused me I will recount without mentioning names, because one of the two I previously didn't like - now I dislike him completely.
1) was subjected to humiliation after presenting a theory to the RAS. When 1) finished 2) spoke out ridiculing 1), and leaving the room in no doubt 1)'s ideas were nonsense. Then the Chairman refused 1) the right to reply. Subsequently 2) stuck the boot in by deriding 1)'s - stellar bufoonery. 2) was very influential so 1)'s work was not taken seriously. Only just after 2) died 1) became FRAS & years later got a Nobel Prize.
Just by chance I did part of my Army National Service in Reading which is vaguely connected with my previous dislike of 2).
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Hi All, I recently ordered the 3 vol book set Luna Cognita for £60 inc p&p from Amazon. I was a bit wary at first especially after your experience Mike of only receiving vol 1 but I reasoned they would not make the same mistake twice! I was somewhat concerned when Amazon confirmed my order showing a picture of Vol 1 only but I needn't have worried. There was a tap on the door last Sat afternoon. My wife answered to find the box sitting on the front door step. She thanked the courier and tried to lift it, nearly doing her back in in the process! It was obvious there was more than one volume there.
It really is the most beautifully produced set of books, well written and very readable. The maps in Vol 3 are quite stunning, well produced and quite fascinating. Like you Mike I am quite fond of maps both terrestrial and celestial and get a lot of enjoyment just looking at them. I read somewhere that it took the author, Robert Garfinkle thirty years to write. It will probably take me the same amount of time to read!
I have just come across a guy who has posted a 20min video clip on You Tube of him unpacking his box. He too only received Vol 1 at first but like you Mike re-ordered it from Waterstones. I would be interested to know how you found out about it in the first place
Was it a book review? I doubt I would have known anything about had I not read your posting. Regards, Paul.
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